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Jul 21, 2008 8:57:05 GMT -5
Post by nstractorguy on Jul 21, 2008 8:57:05 GMT -5
Hey Guys,
Well I finally have gotten off my butt and stopped talking alot and did something. I bought that welder I was looking at. I got the guy down to $140, he also included a helmet, hammer, bunch of rods, pair of gloves and extra long leads. Went to home depot and bought the wiring I needed to hook it up. Also went to Princess Auto (I think similar to HF) and bought a 5 gallon sandblasting holding tank and a how to weld book and more gloves and helmet.
So now I have to hook up the wiring and start practicing. Thanks for all the help and I will send some pics when I get my project moving.
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FlyHiFlyLo
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Jul 21, 2008 13:23:33 GMT -5
Post by FlyHiFlyLo on Jul 21, 2008 13:23:33 GMT -5
Awesome! way to jump in and git-r-dun.
Top five tricks to a beginner welding.
1. Always weld with two hands (one as a rest for the torch tip and one to hold the gun handle.
2. Make sure your are totally comfortable.
3. When you close your mask or it goes dark you don't have to just start welding. Wait a second and get your marbles visually. Identify the metals being welded and the wire/rod you will notice they are different shade of orange.
4. Breath, Breath, Breath
5. A well ground weld is a happy weld.
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Apr 20, 2009 15:03:51 GMT -5
Post by bracabric on Apr 20, 2009 15:03:51 GMT -5
Well folks I went and done it ! I have been thinking of buying a welder for some time and got a lot of good advise from Larry G (as always) and went looking for a MIG, this was some time ago and I sort of went cold on the subject well..................My good wife was in a tile shop ordering the tiles for some of the new house with the Architect and I got good and bored and went walk about, I found myself in the back parking lot of a big hardware store and walked in, first thing I saw was some sanding belts that I have been unable to find in Chile so bought them all and looked ( idly ) at the welders, they had some wonderful Chilean made MIGs at USD$3000+ Oh well , and as I was walking away I looked back and one I had taken for a stick welder drew me back, I was a "last remaining" special offer that had most of the gas container trolley missing and was the equivalent of USD$270 +tax, well now that was my kind of price. It's Chinese of course but seems well put together and the Name is "NEO" and model "M-9140" it's range is from 60amps to 160 amps so a bit strong for thin metal like car body, but I want it for repairs and fabrication of a heavier nature so............... I understand the wire rollers are better on more expensive ones, but I don't want to use it much (when I learn how to) and hopefully it will do the job. The people in the store kept apologising for the trolley or tank rack being missing, but I was happy it was as it brought the price down with a bump and having the welder can surely now make my own rack eh? Many thanks to all who have contributed to the welding information and in my case especially Larry G and Flyhiflylo.. Dick PS Should just mention that you could buy a lot of welders for the price Sylvia paid for the hand made tiles, and we need lots and lots more (I'm told!)
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3RRL
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Apr 20, 2009 20:06:36 GMT -5
Post by 3RRL on Apr 20, 2009 20:06:36 GMT -5
Congratulations Dick! I'm sure in no time at all will you make that missing gas bottle rack. We should be seeing some interesting projects from you now too. It's funny that earlier today my buddy from Montana asked me about getting a welder. I recommended for him to get a mig but interestingly he wanted to get an AC stick welder since he's had experience with one in the past. Good luck with yours and I'm looking forward to your upcoming projects with it. Post some pics of the one you got anyway... Rob-
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Apr 21, 2009 8:00:28 GMT -5
Post by bracabric on Apr 21, 2009 8:00:28 GMT -5
Thanks Rob, I will as soon as I get back from the Farm. I am off there today but first want to inquire about the price of Co2 and such, I am told that having a Pal with a Bar/Pub is useful but as a non boozer I don't know one (yet) take care, Dick
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GuglioLS
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Apr 21, 2009 22:51:52 GMT -5
Post by GuglioLS on Apr 21, 2009 22:51:52 GMT -5
Hi Dick,
So happy to hear you got a good deal on your new MIG! No doubt it won't take long for you to be a master at it. I so look forward to seeing your projects and repairs. Even at 60 amps, with some practice you will be able to weld sheet metal without burning through. Just slow down the wire feed and move fast.
Larry
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Apr 28, 2009 14:42:06 GMT -5
Post by bracabric on Apr 28, 2009 14:42:06 GMT -5
Herewith a few pictures of the "Kit" along with the automatic Helmet. LG. I really wanted it for welding steel bars to other steel bars so the 60Amp minimum doesn't bother me to much, Dick
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GuglioLS
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Apr 28, 2009 21:51:04 GMT -5
Post by GuglioLS on Apr 28, 2009 21:51:04 GMT -5
Hi Dick,
Your new MIG looks like a nice unit, switching polarity between flux wire and using shield gas appears to be a simple matter of moving an external wire? Is that what that's for or something else like the amp range? Have you tried it out? You will quickly be spoiled using the auto darkening helmet. Whats going to be your first project?
Larry
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Apr 29, 2009 21:46:07 GMT -5
Post by Rich Waugh on Apr 29, 2009 21:46:07 GMT -5
Dick,
One trick, if you do find yourself needing to weld thinner sheet stock, is to back up the weld joint with a piece of fairly heavy copper plate. That will abstract a goodly amount of heat from the steel, making it possible to weld thin stuff pretty easily. If you can't find a heavy piece of copper bar or plate, sterling silver works dandy, too. (grin)
Rich
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Apr 29, 2009 22:15:12 GMT -5
Post by bradblazer on Apr 29, 2009 22:15:12 GMT -5
Dick, If this is the same welder that's a very nice duty cycle. www.amazon.com/Industrial-60-160-Amp-Portable-Welder/dp/B000WLPWP0Looks like Larry's right, the 2 front plugs power the stinger and ground so you can reverse them easily to switch to gas. "but I don't want to use it much " Lol pretty soon you'll be eyeing every bit of scrap steel you see and trying to think of where it will fit a future project! Be careful, metal dumpsters are full of sharp edges and pinch points! ;D
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Apr 30, 2009 10:31:01 GMT -5
Post by bracabric on Apr 30, 2009 10:31:01 GMT -5
Larry, Yes to the best of my knowledge it's just a matter of moving an external wire from one hole to the other to change between gas/no gas (remember I'm pre-Kindergarten) it seems fairly simple. No I've not used it yet as I still have to arrange gas and such (not so simple here), it was FAR cheaper than any other unit I'd seen that was acceptable and that's why I bought it although I don't have any specific project in mind . The helmet was the most expensive I could find as I don't fool with my eye sight. Rich. Thanks for the info, It will have to be copper, after all we vie with Australia to be the biggest producer and exporter of copper in the world and if I can't get it at the right price here ......................... Brad. I think your right, it's the same unit just a different colour. I'll watch out for those scrap metal skips then, although ours probably have Peruvian illegals living in them !! Thanks all for the input !!!!!!!! Dick
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Post by captaintractors on Aug 2, 2013 3:15:33 GMT -5
A welder is a tradesman who specializes in welding materials together. The term welder refers to the operator, the machine is referred to as the welding power supply. The materials to be joined can be joined can be metals or varieties of plastic or polymer. Welders typically have to have good dexterity and attention to detail as well as some technical knowledge about the materials being joined and best practices in the field.
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Aug 5, 2013 23:30:24 GMT -5
Post by bradblazer on Aug 5, 2013 23:30:24 GMT -5
A welder is a tradesman who specializes in welding materials together. The term welder refers to the operator, the machine is referred to as the welding power supply. The materials to be joined can be joined can be metals or varieties of plastic or polymer. Welders typically have to have good dexterity and attention to detail as well as some technical knowledge about the materials being joined and best practices in the field. Not much of a spam bot, doesn't know welder from weldor.
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Aug 6, 2013 15:06:28 GMT -5
Post by Rich Waugh on Aug 6, 2013 15:06:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed that too, Brad. Another 2 posts by the same author were equally strange. Do people get paid to post that stuff or is it just a robot? Or maybe the Rainman?
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