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Post by 3RRL on Feb 6, 2008 14:07:46 GMT -5
The tilt is very important to me because during the rainy season, I am always cutting and cleaning the gutters on my dirt road. It is not surfaced and without proper gutter drainage, I get a lot of wash out ruts. It tilts the same in both directions. Surprisingly, the big cylinders react faster than lowering or raising the 3 point. I purposely bought 8" travel cylinders so that I could press down the corner I am cutting with, if I want to get a deep gutter or groove. With the cylinder nearing full extension, I can actually pick up the rear tire of the tractor. Finding this out also makes me feel better about the clearance machining I did on the upper lift arms. They did not break in this test and I only intend to use this feature when the ground is soft and soaked. Here is another photo of the tilt and some photos of how I use it. Right now the ground is hard as a rock so I had to take it easy. I spent a few hours running up and down the round to "crown" the road and scrape some of the loose dirt and rocks off. This photo shows how I cut the gutters before the rains. Water finds the path of least resistance and the small gutter helps channel the run-off to the nearest culvert. As the road softens up, I will re- cut them as needed.
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Post by 3RRL on Feb 6, 2008 14:12:06 GMT -5
One thing I found was very useful with the tilt cylinders. Instead of raising and lowering the 3pt to modify grading the road or a cut in the gutters, I found I could more easily...and with more control...use the hydraulic cylinders by extending or retracting them individually. They responded faster and more accurately. I set the position control on the 3pt so the box blade was several inches off the ground and then lowered each cylinder until I got the desired cut...either level or tilted. The only time I had to use the 3pt was to raise the box blade high. Here is a video showing the movements I can get with the box blade and the new side tilt cylinders. It may take a bit to download, but it's worth looking at. I can operate one valve lever at a time while looking over my shoulder no problem. They are the levers that used to control the old rear remote valve and are on the left floorboard. So if you're wondering about why I bent over, it is because I tried to get them to move at the same time. My levers have so much "throw" I couldn't move them fully at the same time without doing that. But moving each lever separately does not require bending over. Otherwise it would be worthless. Pretty cool huh? Rob-
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Post by 3RRL on Feb 6, 2008 14:15:27 GMT -5
Here is another one while building a new road below the homesite. I used the tilt feature and top link to cut a level road from a slope while bulldozing in reverse. You can see how the boxblade is tilted and adjusted through the cutting process. I had to make several passes this way to get the road level. It was great fun.
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Post by pete on Mar 13, 2008 23:59:20 GMT -5
Rob, quite a project, I would like to copy yours a bit. I don't need your amount of tilt so I am only thinking of replacing 1 side link with a hydraulic cylinder. My main question is, have you had anything really heavy on it? I assume it would not creep down with the check valves installed? I have a Jinma 3 pt hoe and was wondering how it would react.
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Post by 3RRL on Mar 30, 2008 21:10:46 GMT -5
Rob, quite a project, I would like to copy yours a bit. I don't need your amount of tilt so I am only thinking of replacing 1 side link with a hydraulic cylinder. My main question is, have you had anything really heavy on it? I assume it would not creep down with the check valves installed? I have a Jinma 3 pt hoe and was wondering how it would react. Hi Pete, sorry for the late response. I have had super heavy loads on them. Not just carrying around my backhoe, but when using the boxblade to pry out a 2 ton boulder. That was another reason to get extra beefy cylinders too. The side hydraulic links do not leak down nor do they budge even after stress like that. My Nardi 220 hoe weighs about 1100-1200lbs or so. Rob-
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Post by pete on Mar 31, 2008 1:29:11 GMT -5
Glad to hear that it holds that kind of weight Rob. Working out some details, mainly on what valve system to use.
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Post by pete on Mar 31, 2008 1:31:26 GMT -5
Glad to hear that it holds that kind of weight Rob. Working out some details, mainly on what valve system to use. Also; Can I ask what the retracted length of these cylinders is?
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Post by 3RRL on Mar 31, 2008 10:10:13 GMT -5
Pete, I got your email and responded to your other questions. The retracted length on my cylinders is 18-ΒΌ". They have 8" of travel. If you want to copy and paste your email, it might be of interest to have it appear here on the thread so others might benefit from your question. I'll leave it up to you, since I thought your question was very interesting. Rob-
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